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Homeopathic Medicine Conference in Austrailia
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Sir Arthur
2008-09-16 12:31:38 UTC
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 Why does it not bother you that the people at this conference
blithely accept data that you admit may be reasonably described as flawed?
Why do you believe that anything that appears in a journal must ipso facto
be true if it supports your beliefs, while anything that appears in a journal
must be ignored if it refutes them?
Doc, think back to the Pyloric ulcer researchers.  YOU would have been
one of the ones condemning their research because it went against the
COMMONLY ACCEPTED KNOWLEDGE of the era.   There was NO evidence such
bacteria was in the gut, and it was thought to be impossible for such
bacteria to be there anyway because of the pH levels in the stomach.
YOU and THEY WOULD have been absolutely right but instead were 100%
WRONG.
WHY?
Because the little suckers WERE there but were hiding in the stomach
lining.
Conclusion:  The skeptics PRETENDED to have absolute total omniscient
knowledge of the issues involved in making their criticisms of
Marhsall's pyloric ulcer research - with currently known science they
attacked, disregarded and or ignored (at first)
his findings.
What would convince me that Homeopathy MIGHT BE nonsense?
A refutation of the Ennis experiment.
BUT... the deniers
of Homeopathy REFUSE to replicate it?  WHY.... BECAUSE HIGH DILUTION
EXPERIMENTS DO SHOW BIOLOGICAL ACTIVITY.
(DOC, PLEASE DO NOT reference the BBC Horizon documentary
about Ennis - her protocols were NOT followed and the documentary DID
NOT replicate her experiment and I have the exact words
of the producers to verify that)
WHY do the high dilutions show or stimulate bio activity?
It is unknown. NOBODY KNOWS WHY - THAT IS BEING RESEARCHED.
And that is why I will tolerate Homeopathic Dr. Fisher's position and
NOT reject it out of hand as you do.
And don't forget Schultz, we have not even begun to
discuss the low dilution Homeopathic remedies, which DO have
atoms of the original substance in them and which also have been shown
to have biological and curative action.
We have NOT EVEN discussed the strong showing of Homeopathy in the
deadly cholera epidemics, which resulted in WAY BETTER mortality
rates than doing nothing and, of course, visting the allopaths for
their primitive treatments.
As I mentioned, I will try to find out if Fisher is offering
any new research and will report back.
Citizen Jimserac
You've GOT the clues but REFUSE to investigate.
CLOSED MINDS DISCOVER NOTHING
Dr. Jimserac, you are a genius above a genius. Your depth of
knowledge on health issues are matched by your compassion, concern and
honest caring of your fellow citizens. Yours posts are an outstanding
example of mixing facts, data and honest opinions that affect and
effect everybody. Keep up the great work, I know that we are reaching
many thousands of people, if not way more!!

Sir Arthur
Citizen Jimserac
2008-09-17 04:13:11 UTC
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Dr.Jimserac, you are a genius above a genius.  Your depth of
knowledge on health issues are matched by your compassion, concern and
honest caring of your fellow citizens.  Yours posts are an outstanding
example of mixing facts, data and honest opinions that affect and
effect everybody.  Keep up the great work, I know that we are reaching
many thousands of people, if not way more!!
Sir Arthur
Many thanks!

Citizen Jimserac
Mark Probert
2008-09-17 10:14:59 UTC
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Post by Citizen Jimserac
Dr.Jimserac, you are a genius above a genius.  Your depth of
knowledge on health issues are matched by your compassion, concern and
honest caring of your fellow citizens.  Yours posts are an outstanding
example of mixing facts, data and honest opinions that affect and
effect everybody.  Keep up the great work, I know that we are reaching
many thousands of people, if not way more!!
Sir Arthur
Many thanks!
Yes, Jimmy, a compliment from one of Usenets biggest loons is high
praise, from the bottom of the barrel.

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